A reply to the blogger kittysjones: “The ultimate aim of the “allthesame” lie is division and disempowerment of the Left.”


What a fucking cop out!

What follows was posted as a reply to the blog post here: twice; we then asked the blogger whether our comment had been censored, as we could see other, more sycophantic comments had since been approved by the admin; that reply didn’t appear either. It doesn’t auger well for a future under labour if even their supporting bloggers seek to stifle mild dissent.

From the anti-capitalist point of view of course they’re all the same, – should the turkey vote for Christmas? The Chartist and suffragette campaigns were not primarily about the right to vote, that was just a means to an end. They were an attempt to bring the selfish and greedy ruling class to heel, and they weren’t afraid to fight. But it was too late, they let us have the vote once they had completed the theft of our means of production, and condemned every single one of us to wage labour, which however you dress it up, is an abusive relationship; an abomination. The labour party gave the working class someone to vote for that could speak politely for it in the corridors of power then take its seat again without ever altering the balance of that power.

The worst thing about voting is that it’s an excuse for not doing anything, it reinforces the idea that someone, somewhere, is in control and it’s up to them to solve the problems they created, it isn’t, it’s up to us. People waste their time and energy campaigning in an election and then sit back on their arses as if they’ve done something worthwhile. What a fucking cop out. The working class has power, governments claim to have it; government is a conspiracy between rulers and ruled. Your reward for allowing yourself to be governed is absolution from responsibility for the misery created by the society you inhabit. Recent history has shown that whilst elected governments must bend to corporate interests a handful of determined militants can thwart their best laid plans. An example of the futility of parliamentary democracy can be found here: yet generations of leftists have defeated themselves in this arena. Read how the labour member respects our enemies for their ability to frustrate us.

What if labour do get elected? A thinly-veiled corporatism is sold to us on the basis that it will be slightly kinder; and to the bourgeoisie on the premise that it will be more stable than their cut-throat piracy (in other words we will be persuaded to collaborate in our own exploitation). When we start kicking off, wildcatting, blockading fracking sites, stopping evictions and deportations, closing down exploiters, actually hurting our capitalist enemies, they’ll tell us to stop rocking the boat or we’ll let the tories in again, just like they did in the 70’s. Anyway, here’s our original reply:

“All three parties are fighting this election under false pretences, the idea that countries must balance their books like petty bourgeois households and that abstract debts created in computer programmes exert some moral obligation over real people – much less the working class, who even built their wretched computers for them. The idea that there is a shortage of work and money when in fact there is too much of both. There is plenty to do; to be sure, saving the bloody planet for a start, but the only activity that will earn you a qualified right to exist in their world is one that adds value to someone else’s capital thereby enhancing the fetishised status of the socially useless. A true socialist would have the courage to say so.

Of course the tories are despicable and wish to enslave the working class, but need I remind you the last labour government introduced workfare and lied to the United Nations to start a war in which a million people died, despite an unprecedented and inarguable level of active public opposition. Short of taking up arms against the state the British people were powerless to prevent a humanitarian catastrophe engineered by Tony Blair on behalf of his sponsors in the oil industry – Halliburton – who were at the time running the United States. They’ve got form for this; the Wilson government took a solemn decision in cabinet to lie to the U.N. over Diego Garcia which it had sold to the U.S. for a military base, had the population forcibly removed and left to stave to death on a rock.

Now Miliband will pander to the moral panic painstakingly created by the corporate media over immigration; curiously the public service broadcaster has led the way in this. The BBC incessantly prompts callers for reactionary comments, reassuring wavering racists that it’s understandable to be scared of foreigners. Any fool knows that economic migration is not controlled by governments but by the bourgeoisie, who use it to lower the wages and conditions at the bottom, whilst ‘quality immigration’ – importing I.T. specialists from India or doctors from the Philippines is just a shameful pillage of the education systems of the poorest countries by the richest – primitive accumulation. National borders are of no use to us, being only necessary to maintain differentials in prices and wages to the benefit of the employing class. A true socialist would have the courage to say so.

A ‘Labour’ party would stand for the working class regardless of nationality and expose the concept of national interest for the scam it has always been. It would stop lying about the realities of economics, stop apologising for the excesses of global capitalism, stop trying to fix the economy, stop polishing the turd. If we want an end to capitalism we have to stop trying to make it work. The economy is the mechanism that maintains the dominance of the few over the many and we must push it until it breaks.

We don’t want a different government we need expropriation of private property and to take control of the infrastructure to institute sustainable demand-led production. No political party is going to do that for us, the emancipation of the exploited is the task of the exploited themselves, not some lily-livered apologist for the exploiters.”

Mal C x


  1. 1. I have sincerely had no comment on my site from you until this link showed in the notifications. WordPress has been delaying notifications since their format change. 2. How very mature and broad minded of you to call commentators with whom you disagree ‘synchophantic’. 3. Pencil me in for the revolution once you have organised it, won’t you. 4. Narxism – https://kittysjones.wordpress.com/2015/03/15/narxism/


    • We posted it twice, and another asking if you were censoring dissenting comments. We even received an e mail notification from wordpress that a further reply had been moderated.


      • Just to clarify, i don’t have time to debate with everyone, and not allowing either lengthy inaccurate rants or abusive posts isn’t ‘censoring’ since you are not prevented from posting anywhere else but my site. And given it IS my site, I can allow what I like. I am not obliged to post any old tosh, nor am I obliged to endlessly justify my posts to you personally.


    • Is that Jamie Oliver?

      That blog really has a whiff of desperation about it, I suspect it’s written by Millipede, a close relative, or his PR company. It’s full of pompous ad hominem characterisations about … who exactly? all the people the blogger anticipates will disagree with them. I would have been a lot ruder.


      • You syncophant …


      • I stopped reading at the puerile use of ‘milipede’. FFS how old are you? The blog is aimed at stupid peope like you, who can’t tell the difference between shit and shinola, and worse, couldn’t gve a fuck about anyone else but themselves


      • Fuck off Mal, anyway, the good news is only 25% of labour candidates are up for a nuclear holocaust! The rest are really down on the idea but will of course go along with the majority decision in the interests of democracy.


      • There’s a philosophical conundrum, innit. Suppose a majority of registered voters who could be arsed to participate in a referendum were in favour of ending human history and rendering the planet uninhabitable, as an alternative to something they considered worse, such as the enemy showing them up; would that be democratic? Or if by some parliamentary mechanism a majority of political representatives and appointees favoured annihilation? Should we delegate such decisions to those who care more about their media rating than the survival of our species?

        BTW, does anybody know what shinoloa is? I’m from Hampshire and I’m pretty sure I’ve never seen any; shit however I’m sufficiently familiar with to detect it at 100 paces in the dark.


      • I think they sell it in waitrose. toff’s breakfast cereal, its’about 4 quid, tastes like shit


    • Who’s been a naughty anarchist then Mal? Commenting on other people’s blogs! Get a job, get yer ‘air cut ‘ave a wash!

      Thought you might like this:



    • You’d almost have thought they were in government wouldn’t you!

      I’m sure the uncounted dead of Iraq would be touched to know the decision to kill them wasn’t unanimous, but it kind of makes the point. The entire country was against the war, most of the governing party and their most ardent supporter were against it, but Bush snapped his oily fingers and they did it anyway. Democracy, what a load of bollocks.


  2. Take the piss out of my typos, by all means – I am ill and have eyesight problems due to optic nerve damage. But it won’t make you rational, coherent and cogent human beings, unfortunately.


  3. “An insistence on parliamentary so-called democracy is merely playing with freedom and in effect, retreating to militarism. The progressive conquest of political power under capitalism is a snare and a delusion. The present situation in Germany illustrates this truth very clearly. …

    Germany failed because of this paralysing belief in parliamentarianism and this disbelief in the power and initiative of the working class. …

    Belief in parliament does not lead to freedom, but leads to the emancipation of a few selected persons at the expense of the whole of the working class. …

    Yes, parliamentarianism saved Germany. Saved it from Socialism. Saved it for Fascism. Parliamentary social democracy and parliamentary communism have destroyed the socialist hope of Europe, has made a carnage of human liberty. In Britain, parliamentarianism saved the workers from Socialism, gave them a Socialist leader of a National Government, and has prepared the workers for the holocaust of a new war. All this has parliamentarianism done. Have you not had enough of this huge deception? Are you still prepared to continue in the same old way, along the same old lines, talking and talking and doing nothing?”

    – Ethel MacDonald: February 1937


    • And of course we’re now in a state of continuous war, being the only way to generate enough output to keep all this fictitious money in circulation. Most military hardware does not have to compete in the market and is overwhelmingly funded by the working class. The catastrophe in the region has far gone beyond what a couple of half-wits like Bush and Blair could have engineered to salvage neoliberalism.

      The parallels with the 1930s are indeed striking, Islamophobia is being milked in place of anti-Semitism, and Radical Islam has supplanted the Jewish-Bolshevik conspiracy once peddled by Churchill, Hitler and their ilk. Political Islam barely existed before the Russians invaded Afghanistan, the anti-imperialist movements in the region were all aggressively secular and vaguely Stalinist in character. So now we have clerical fascism as a flag of convenience for elements of the former Iraqi army (after Franco perhaps? IS could almost be following the Mola plan, with their mass executions, human shields, shelling refugees and so on) versus capitalism in crisis, two opposing forms of fascism. In places of extreme poverty and lack of education Islamism has proved a more effective anti-colonial banner than Marxism but co-opting elements of the Maoist protracted peasant war. The end of history has given way to the clash of civilisations, a very dangerous game.

      And whereas a pre-revolutionary situation occurs when people are abandoned by their institutions, in Rojava, faced with a choice of military dictatorships and imperialist proxies the people have taken matters into their own hands. Their direct democracy has institutionalised what was lacking in mid-east politics: religious freedom, gender and ethnic equality. Their rejection of the nation-state looks the best hope for peace and stability in the region; Democratic Confederalism is infertile ground in which for political parties to compete for influence. The imperial powers will just have to get used to the fact there is no boss they can cut a dodgy deal with.


  4. Deep breaths and let’s stop being narky kitty simply ask yourself are you happy with how things are,were you happy with how things were do you in your heart of hearts see any prospect of things changing in the future when they never have in the past within the jaundiced,corrupt system you espouse ? No? So stop choosing the lesser of two evils,stop being part of the problem ,stop empowering an enterprise you have the intelligence to see is entirely self serving and either help to end it or have a lie in.


  5. Oh yea and shinola was overpriced grease of entirely cosmetic worth


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